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[eferleah93]

I thought you wanted the rational Christians to answer. "Rational Christians" don't have a problem with science.

[forba]

1. Seriously, I do NOT want an ape to be my ancestor. and if i say "evolution has no proof", am i wrong?
because it doesn't have any proof.
and its also true evolution doesnt explain where the universe comes from.
AND its ALSO true that its just a theory w/o ANY proof whatsoever if archaeologists can find dinosaurs from millions of years ago, why can't they find the "missing link"?
whether or nt to believe in the theory of evolution is a choice.
u can find someone w/o a religion who doesnt believe in th theory of evolution too.

2. Do I? i don't. I already know that God is The Way.
If evolution is proved wrong then it just brings researchers and the entire human race back to square one.
If evolution is proved wrong, is doesn't prove God is right.
Christians are people who believe NOW, that God is the right way.

3. Duh we do. I'm wondering, do YOU?
and im wondering, if ur angry cuz u think that we think that science is crap, we dont. not to offend, but its true that science isnt stable. apart from the really obvious. there are many arguments in science.

4. No. I was taught that gravity is a law.

5. I'm stuck. I don't get what u mean. Faith is the total opposite of evidence.
Ever heard of 'walk by Faith and not by Sight'? Sight is evidence, in a sense.
Faith exists w/o evidence. If u have evidence God exists, then its no longer faith. cuz u alr knw. if u get wat im saying.

And I get the feeling ur not believing me.
Why do ppl hv a problem with Christian Faith or teachings, or even Christians for that matter?
What do u ppl hv against us?
Here are some questions for the "rational" non-christian then.

1. Why do u criticize God when u don't know anyth abt Him? I hear u say things like 'it's a load of junk'. do we say that evolution is a load of trash? (no offence, i hear non-christians say that)

2. Why do you think we NEED to prove God is right?

3. Do u understand or even know who God is?

4. Do you understand that evolution is also "just" a belief?

5. How on Earth does faith equate with evidence?

P.S. Christians have NOTHING against science, Im a christian but very interested in science.
P.P.S Im not saying there arent any scientists not interested in religion. I happen to know some interested in religion and seeking to compare the 2.

[faing]

1) we do understand evolution.
we know its a lie.
evidence shows its a lie
only a person who ignores the evidence and insists its real does not understand.
when science teaches dinosaurs evolved into birds and then fossil studies say they did not. it does not take a rocket scientist to understand the theory they did is not correct.
http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_articles/theropod_dinosaurs_evolved_birds_not_likely_says_study

same way with the age of the earth. when science says they made a guess with no factual evidence why do people say its fact when science says its not its just their opinion?
http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/age.html

2) god stated long before man tried to find another way because they refuse top believe god.
we know its god because he says so and it shows god created it by what was made.

3)yes we know and we know that science lies when they say they can see evolution and test it and show it is at work.

4) yes gravity can be tested and gravity can be seen that the principle of gravity is at work. you can not test or see evolution because it does not exist it can not be tested and it can not be seen to be at work.

5) faith is based on past evidence occurring
the sun has constantly shined every day and month and years for many years.
by that evidence we have faith the sun will continue to shine far into the future,

our faith is based on evidence it is not blind with no evidence

[garadun96]

What does a rational Christian mean? One that believes a bit less ;) ? I am not one of those; but i really do not buy must of the crappy "pro-Christian scientific theories" out there.

1. I personally do not. Evolution is a theory that is at least true referring to each species in particular. I am quite convinced that the rest is false, but then again I am not a biologist so I cannot asses that (nor believe people who claim they can)

2. This is not entirely stupid. If evolution is proven wrong well, the explanation that all species were created by God..."directly" - although not even a scientific theory - becomes much more likely.
Of course, the falsity of the theory of evolution will automatically prove God's existence only if creationism or something of the sort will also be proven right. The funny thing is that if creationism is proven right, then God's existence is proven anyway, so no need to involve Darwinism here..

3. Do not have all the theoretical background, however did some small research myself (and still doing). I may still know the answer, but i lack the terms or ability to synthesize it in a comprehensible way.

4. Yes.

5. This is a sophistic question, won't answer ;). Yes, so are 1& 2, but I've chosen to answer those nevertheless.

But yeah, people who believe that god's existence can be proven scientifically are completely wrong (i do not exclude other proofs; hell, I have proofs of my own). If God's existence could be proved in a finite reasoning system, than all the smart people who will understand the proof will find god. However, God does treat people the same regardless of the IQ so He won't allow a group of people (the smart ones) to be privileged in knowing Him (he did that somewhat with the Jews, but now - with Christ - this won't happen again) . So this is the contradiction ;).

[eferleah93]

1. biblical evolution: babe-->child-->man-->God is not a man;
so let's move beyond the childish 'part' you're involved in;
for when it comes to 'man', childish things are put away.
2. being right to make others wrong, is not a Godly trait;
for there is no respect of persons (no partiality) with God.
God neither makes sides, nor takes a side, to have war.
For all physical & verbal wars have bad 'side effects'.
3. under-stand is not under the law, but under grace;
so with all thy getting, get it: under-standing (Solomon);
But then also look up, to what's above under-standing.
4. gravity (law) speaks of grounded, grace speaks of free.
5. evidence makes it "evident" no man is justified by law;
As for faith: the law is not of faith: it doesn't please God.
Neither does sacrifice (is of the law) please God (Grace).
Only grace mercy and peace please God.
So grace mercy and peace unto you;
from God our Father & the Lord JC.

As for wondering, there's two wonders
that appear in heaven in Revelation 12:
- wonder woman
- dragon (another wonder)
If you're still wonder-ing; which are you?
Try replacing wonder-ing x2 with k-now.
For what follows 2 wonders (laws) is war.
War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing.

[plat]

Dude no "rational" Christians and believers exist! They are all stupid!